xxncx video NETGEAR Orbi Tri-band Whole Home Mesh WiFi System with 3Gbps speed (RBK50) C Router and Extender coverage up to 5,000 square feet; 2-Pack includes 1 Router and 1 Satellite White gifts for children
xxncx video NETGEAR Orbi Tri-band Whole Home Mesh WiFi System with 3Gbps speed (RBK50) C Router and Extender coverage up to 5,000 square feet; 2-Pack includes 1 Router and 1 Satellite White gifts for children
xxncx video NETGEAR Orbi Tri-band Whole Home Mesh WiFi System with 3Gbps speed (RBK50) C Router and Extender coverage up to 5,000 square feet; 2-Pack includes 1 Router and 1 Satellite White gifts for children
xxncx video NETGEAR Orbi Tri-band Whole Home Mesh WiFi System with 3Gbps speed (RBK50) C Router and Extender coverage up to 5,000 square feet; 2-Pack includes 1 Router and 1 Satellite White gifts for children
xxncx video NETGEAR Orbi Tri-band Whole Home Mesh WiFi System with 3Gbps speed (RBK50) C Router and Extender coverage up to 5,000 square feet; 2-Pack includes 1 Router and 1 Satellite White gifts for children
xxncx video NETGEAR Orbi Tri-band Whole Home Mesh WiFi System with 3Gbps speed (RBK50) C Router and Extender coverage up to 5,000 square feet; 2-Pack includes 1 Router and 1 Satellite White gifts for children

xxncx video NETGEAR Orbi Tri-band Whole Home Mesh WiFi System with 3Gbps speed (RBK50) C Router and Extender coverage up to 5,000 square feet; 2-Pack includes 1 Router and 1 Satellite White gifts for children

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      The most xxncx video award-winning Mesh xxncx video WiFi system on the planet: PC Mag, CNET, xxncx video Wirecutter, xxncx video Forbes, xxncx video SmallNetBuilderI'm going xxncx video to xxncx video keep this short, because otherwise I'll end up deleting this after xxncx video several xxncx video revisions and give up. For this xxncx video I product line xxncx video (Orbi xxncx video RK50), this will be my xxncx video third attempt, because I feel xxncx video rather strongly about it. Also, you may find this review somewhat strange, because I will spend most of the time xxncx video not talking xxncx video about it. xxncx video If you have the time and xxncx video patience, please bear with me - I promise there's xxncx video a xxncx video point to it. xxncx video Finally, I xxncx video apologize in advance if xxncx video this xxncx video review contributes toward you deciding to buy xxncx video this wifi distribution system and xxncx video it xxncx video turns out not to xxncx video meet your needs. There xxncx video are always edge cases where even the best products will underperform. Wireless xxncx video data transmission, unlike wired, is strongly affected by a number of external factors, such xxncx video as obstacles (e.g. material xxncx video type and xxncx video thickness), competing signals (vicinity xxncx video and number) that cause interference and result xxncx video in diminished performance.In my xxncx video case, there are only a small number of other signals in the neighborhood; but due to the position of the cable xxncx video modem providing internet service - which is situated on the xxncx video second floor, in a xxncx video far corner - there were many dead zones xxncx video throughout the house. The built xxncx video in xxncx video wifi transceiver of xxncx video the modem (a typical FIOS unit) provided relatively adequate xxncx video service on xxncx video that xxncx video floor; but on the xxncx video first floor, the signal was significantly xxncx video diminished and entirely inadequate for reliably xxncx video streaming video to the television that sits xxncx video at the xxncx video opposite end of xxncx video the xxncx video house. In addition, there is an adjunct xxncx video structure that xxncx video was added xxncx video later and connects on the opposite end first floor xxncx video via xxncx video a thick door. Beyond this xxncx video point, the signal was very faint and xxncx video could only be picked xxncx video up sporadically, near the door. Suffice it xxncx video to xxncx video say, the entire xxncx video basement was a dead xxncx video zone and areas in between varied from acceptable (first floor, closest xxncx video to xxncx video the xxncx video modem) to mostly inadequate.(note: xxncx video if you are xxncx video unfamiliar with some of the terminology xxncx video in xxncx video this section, don't let xxncx video it xxncx video confuse xxncx video you. I'm providing xxncx video the additional information xxncx video mainly to clarify the effort I put into solving the xxncx video problem.) My first attempt was to simply reuse existing hardware: a 3 year old 1900AC router with dual xxncx video frequency antennas and a Tinkerboard with an AC-56 dual radio USB dongle attached. xxncx video I tried using both xxncx video devices xxncx video mentioned (the former xxncx video running xxncx video various releases xxncx video of OpenWRT and the latter running a flavor xxncx video of Debian Linux with hostapd etc. configured). I used the 'iw xxncx video phy xxncx video info' command in both cases xxncx video to find device specific xxncx video info for xxncx video tunable parameters, xxncx video to xxncx video ensure that both configurations were xxncx video optimally supporting underlying device capabilities (set via hostapd.conf xxncx video in Linux xxncx video and wireless config xxncx video file in OpenWRT). For the AC-56 I also compiled xxncx video a third party variant of the RT8812AU kernel driver, which reduces some hardware restrictions (mainly usability of xxncx video side xxncx video channel transmission in a competitive environment, iirc).I originally set up xxncx video the 1900AC device as xxncx video a xxncx video retransmitter xxncx video on the first xxncx video floor near the xxncx video other end of the house, xxncx video which would xxncx video pick up the modem's xxncx video 2.4GHzWifi xxncx video signal and then xxncx video retransmit it via both xxncx video 2.4GHz and 5GHz. I tried to minimize xxncx video the number of clients connecting via xxncx video 2.4GHz because the router only has xxncx video one xxncx video radio for each band and already uses the lower band to communicate xxncx video with the modem. This configuration provided coverage to the xxncx video adjunct xxncx video using both bands, but xxncx video the transmission xxncx video rate xxncx video was odd: while speed tests claimed 20-24 down xxncx video / 40-50 xxncx video up (subscription is xxncx video for a 75/ xxncx video connection), xxncx video the stability and transmission rate xxncx video of the connection seemed to xxncx video vary greatly, resulting e.g. in frequent drops in xxncx video quality xxncx video in some cases or freezes in others while streaming video. I haven't tested xxncx video this yet with the Orbi setup, xxncx video but xxncx video I also saw xxncx video frequent disconnects when using xxncx video a xxncx video VPN). I was now able to stream to the TV, but the quality xxncx video of xxncx video the stream xxncx video was sub-par. xxncx video Since xxncx video the xxncx video same happened with clients connected on either band, i assume the bottleneck was caused by the communication between xxncx video the modem and the xxncx video router. In case I forget xxncx video to mention this later: I should note that when xxncx video I placed xxncx video the xxncx video Orbi master and slave units, I used the same locations where the other devices xxncx video were set up.To improve xxncx video the quality xxncx video of the transmission xxncx video between the modem xxncx video and the router, xxncx video I then xxncx video placed xxncx video the additional device near the ceiling at the opposite xxncx video end of the room so xxncx video that xxncx video it was connected xxncx video by xxncx video wire to the modem in that room and effectively acted xxncx video as an intermediary between the modem xxncx video and the xxncx video router. This brought the signal about 12' closer (horizontally) to the center of the house. I xxncx video tried using both devices xxncx video as intermediaries, but the xxncx video result was xxncx video the same: there was no xxncx video significant xxncx video improvement. I also tried xxncx video moving the intermediary closer to xxncx video the floor, moving the router xxncx video from xxncx video the xxncx video first floor to the second, xxncx video etc. In xxncx video all cases the end result xxncx video was the same: xxncx video diminished signal xxncx video strength and significant xxncx video reduction of transmission speed and quality. I xxncx video also tried varying the channels used on both bands.This lengthy description is meant xxncx video primarily to illustrate that I went to some xxncx video length xxncx video to try to set up a distributed wifi network on my own. Was the ultimate xxncx video result xxncx video caused by xxncx video the devices, or was it because xxncx video I ultimately failed to find the xxncx video optimal configuration xxncx video I will admit that I could have xxncx video tried a xxncx video few xxncx video more things to optimize xxncx video utilization of device capabilities. I xxncx video could have also xxncx video formalized testing xxncx video procedures xxncx video to obtain more consistent and useful results. Is it likely that someone more experienced/knowledgeable could have gotten it to work, in xxncx video less time Probably. If you xxncx video were reading this and xxncx video kept thinking "but why xxncx video didn't you try XYZ," you are xxncx video probably that person. I should xxncx video also point out that xxncx video there xxncx video send to be xxncx video something strange going on with the hardware of the 1900AC device - which I could never identify, xxncx video in xxncx video spite xxncx video of sending all xxncx video syslog information xxncx video to a xxncx video dedicated xxncx video syslog server, spending xxncx video lots xxncx video of time reviewing xxncx video system xxncx video and ring buffer logs, etc. Either the problem xxncx video has worsened xxncx video in the last xxncx video six xxncx video months xxncx video (which could xxncx video also be temperature-related, xxncx video especially since it involves radio xxncx video transmissions), or some component is operating xxncx video at xxncx video reduced efficiency xxncx video without failing completely or crashing xxncx video the device. Other xxncx video possibilities are xxncx video that I've xxncx video spent xxncx video too much time looking at all xxncx video this and am xxncx video starting xxncx video to see things. xxncx video Finally xxncx video - and this is xxncx video the most xxncx video likely xxncx video reason - different versions of OpenWRT seem xxncx video to xxncx video perform differently on any xxncx video given platform. xxncx video Notably, if you have an xxncx video older device, the optimal version xxncx video of OpenWRT/DD-WRT/Gargoyle/etc. Isn't xxncx video necessarily xxncx video the most xxncx video recent one. For example, one popular xxncx video variant of OpenWRT started providing a version for my specific xxncx video device with an older xxncx video kernel revision, because xxncx video the more recent kernel caused consistent xxncx video system crashes, for unknown reasons.Great, you've made it this far You have my respect. This review is xxncx video disastrous and spends far too much time xxncx video talking about anything xxncx video but the product supposedly xxncx video being reviewed. I did want xxncx video to elaborate on the amount xxncx video of xxncx video work xxncx video I put into resolving the problem and adequately describing xxncx video the obstacles encountered. In the end, I xxncx video feel xxncx video that I can xxncx video only adequately xxncx video illustrate xxncx video the performance of this product by properly xxncx video describing the xxncx video 'theater of war' in which it xxncx video was xxncx video dropped to carry out its mission. Before I get to that next, I also wanted to point out that this isn't intended to, xxncx video nor should it xxncx video be taken as a "negative" review xxncx video of the xxncx video other devices - which xxncx video I've deliberately xxncx video kept vague xxncx video in one xxncx video case, because xxncx video it's a device xxncx video with a xxncx video similar purpose from a competing vendor; comparing the xxncx video two isn't fair due to the differences in specific purpose, significant difference in age, xxncx video and because the xxncx video other device was running a third party OS that doesn't come xxncx video with an optimal service specific configuration by default and may have been xxncx video running xxncx video a xxncx video suboptimal configuration. xxncx video As for the Tinker board - i used xxncx video it because it's an SoC with a gigabit network port that happens to come with the dongle xxncx video - specific driver. xxncx video Needless to xxncx video say, it was never intended to be xxncx video used for these purposes, xxncx video although - considering the very low transmission speed maximum - even it is fast enough to xxncx video not become the bottleneck.When I tried to set up the Orbi units, I xxncx video was xxncx video initially frustrated by the quick start documentation. xxncx video Now to the manufacturer: if your documentation instructs the xxncx video user to modify other xxncx video devices (in this case, remove the backup xxncx video batteries xxncx video from xxncx video the cable modem), you owe it to the user to provide at least a short xxncx video justification. I couldn't find xxncx video any xxncx video batteries xxncx video and didn't feel like xxncx video disassembling the device xxncx video to look for any, xxncx video so xxncx video I only xxncx video followed the first step: unplug, wait, plug back in. Also, xxncx video the documentation doesn't specifically mention whether xxncx video the up link cable should also be plugged xxncx video in at xxncx video the same time. Fortunately, none of this affected xxncx video the xxncx video final outcome.In the end, the master unit was placed in the same location, xxncx video near xxncx video the xxncx video ceiling and connected to the modem xxncx video via the same ethernet cable. Meanwhile, the slave unit took xxncx video over the location xxncx video where the xxncx video other router was previously located. I don't really recall xxncx video doing much else, xxncx video because xxncx video the default configuration seemed to already work well. I did enable beam forming xxncx video and the option below it, xxncx video but i can't say xxncx video whether they had any effect on the outcome.The most xxncx video immediately notable difference was that the entire xxncx video house - including the basement - xxncx video receives a strong signal xxncx video (minimum 4/5 bars in the xxncx video most xxncx video distant xxncx video corner of the basement and the adjunct, which is behind an xxncx video exterior wall/ thick door; xxncx video but typically 5/5 xxncx video everywhere else). Using a wifi scanner app confirms this: both master/slave units are now visible xxncx video in the plot, even at 5GHz (when checked near the slave).Wifi signal strength decreases faster at xxncx video higher xxncx video frequencies (most wireless devices compensate for xxncx video this xxncx video by xxncx video increasing the power output from eg xxncx video 20 xxncx video to 30mW when xxncx video using higher channels xxncx video in xxncx video a given band. Still, xxncx video considering the low xxncx video quality of the xxncx video 2.4GHz signal from the xxncx video prior setup, xxncx video I am amazed that Netgear manages xxncx video the entire backhaul via the dedicated third xxncx video 5GHz signal. The output of xxncx video these radios is limited by FCC regulation to a low level and, in xxncx video any case, xxncx video pumping xxncx video up the power xxncx video increases xxncx video the noise produced without adequate cooling. xxncx video So my only xxncx video conclusion is, xxncx video considering that all xxncx video radios in all devices (except the modem) are compatible with the fastest standards xxncx video for xxncx video each xxncx video band, xxncx video that the people who created the configuration xxncx video of xxncx video these devices know way more than I xxncx video do. Which isn't to say that xxncx video I'm xxncx video any kind of xxncx video guru. In xxncx video fact, the details above should hopefully xxncx video give you an idea of the results produced xxncx video by a layman trying to solve the same problem.Bandwidth tests xxncx video on DSL Reports show 5X down / xxncx video 6X xxncx video up and A ratings excerpt xxncx video for buffer bloat, which receives a B rating. xxncx video But these numbers are xxncx video in the end xxncx video just figures that are as meaningless as xxncx video they xxncx video were xxncx video when I xxncx video conducted the same tests using the previous setup. What xxncx video matters xxncx video in the xxncx video end (and why I xxncx video never bothered to find xxncx video out xxncx video if those options I enabled made a difference) is that I no longer feel xxncx video the need xxncx video to nickel and dime the effect each parameter change has on xxncx video the result. It xxncx video simply works - pacman updates (MinGW/MSYS xxncx video - xxncx video I'm stating xxncx video these specifically because pacman shows throughput for xxncx video each downloaded package xxncx video and the recent update modified 30-40, or 612MiB total) xxncx video have gone xxncx video from average 2-300KiB/s to 4-5MiB/s (on a laptop xxncx video located xxncx video in xxncx video the adjunct) - a far cry from xxncx video the 2-3x difference that the speed xxncx video tests presume to indicate. Streams work without interruption. Everything works - i don't even think about it xxncx video anymore. xxncx video And, I xxncx video other than the Orbi xxncx video system xxncx video adjusting its local subnet due to collision xxncx video with the modem shortly after setup, there has xxncx video not been a single interruption.In fact, since you've read this far (you have, haven't you), I'll do you a solid xxncx video and kick off a test right now: a xxncx video 16.2GiB update on Steam. It appears to be xxncx video peaking at 7.3MiB/s, with a very solid xxncx video (nearly a xxncx video line) average of 7.1MiB. Previously I saw a maximum of 2.2 xxncx video (more generally 1.5-1.8), but xxncx video throttled to 1MiB xxncx video because otherwise streaming became impossible and even visiting web pages ended in frequent errors. While this is happening, I'm now going to try streaming xxncx video Crunchyroll xxncx video on an Android phone...one minute xxncx video in, no freezes. xxncx video I can't sty how much the xxncx video download xxncx video dipped in that xxncx video time, because the steam xxncx video client only shows current speed (7.2) and the graph xxncx video isn't really indicative.This is my first, xxncx video posted review. I spectacularly failed xxncx video on my initial xxncx video promise to keep it xxncx video short xxncx video (now you see why I don't write xxncx video reviews), but xxncx video I hope this gives you some xxncx video measure of confidence, xxncx video in case you're on the fence (like was actually, xxncx video for xxncx video a long time). It's an amazing device - in the two weeks I've xxncx video used xxncx video it so far. I would describe myself as a technical person xxncx video who's xxncx video slowly xxncx video turning into a luddite because of xxncx video endless frustrations with electronics. I don't xxncx video recall the last time when I was this overwhelmed in terms of xxncx video expectations vs results. If in two xxncx video years I'm still seeing xxncx video even 80% xxncx video of these results xxncx video and similar consistency, it might even give my Nokia N900 a run for the money xxncx video in terms xxncx video of best in its class I've owned.Maintains xxncx video speed even as more devices use your WiFi at the same time, thanks to patented tri-band technologyEliminates WiFi dead zones and buffering xxncx video - 5,000 xxncx video square feet of xxncx video consistent xxncx video coverage - with speeds up to 3GbpsNETGEAR Smart Parental Controls promotes healthy Internet habits, fosters responsibility and builds trust with your kids xxncx video (30-day xxncx video free trial included)My last few routers have all been Asus routers, I tend to by the biggest one I xxncx video can get to get coverage in all areas of my xxncx video home. My old xxncx video Asus RT-AC87U router is xxncx video located in my man cave which is in the basement of my ranch house and all the xxncx video way at one end of the house. Because of this placement xxncx video it makes getting xxncx video a good xxncx video strong signal upstairs and at the other end of the house xxncx video a little difficult. Ive tried various methods to extend the wifi in the xxncx video past including xxncx video using power line adapters and xxncx video wifi repeaters, theyve always xxncx video been xxncx video a little flaky so I always try and just buy a big router instead.Ive seen xxncx video the mesh xxncx video wifi routers becoming xxncx video more popular, there big selling point is that everything is seamless to xxncx video install and configure, you dont xxncx video have to mess with setting up multiple routers in xxncx video bridge mode xxncx video or anything else, you just plug them in xxncx video and they all xxncx video work together to form a big wifi xxncx video mesh network. I started looking at xxncx video the 2 that had been out for a while, Eero xxncx video and Luma and they seemed fairly decent but had mixed reviews. Then I saw that NetGear xxncx video had come xxncx video out with their own, the Orbi. I had intended to xxncx video just upgrade to another big honkin router, xxncx video the Nighthawk X6 AC3200 but the Orbi caught my eye xxncx video and was getting very xxncx video good xxncx video reviews so I thought I would give it a try instead.One thing that stood out with the xxncx video Orbi is its dedicated xxncx video backhaul, which is the connection xxncx video between the main xxncx video router and the satellite routers, other mesh wifi systems use the same radios that is used for user traffic for the connections between devices xxncx video as well. The Orbi xxncx video has a xxncx video dedicated radio for that to separate that traffic and not use up user bandwidth which xxncx video allows for better performance. So after reading xxncx video up on xxncx video everything I could xxncx video find about xxncx video the Orbi and seeing good things I ordered the xxncx video 2 xxncx video unit model (router + satellite).When it xxncx video arrived I xxncx video opened xxncx video it and it was very nicely packaged, the router and satellite units are the xxncx video same size xxncx video and fairly big (also a xxncx video bit slippery). I followed the quick xxncx video install instructions, xxncx video removed my old router, unplugged my cable modem, xxncx video plugged it back in, turned on the main Orbi router, plugged it into the cable xxncx video modem, placed the satellite upstairs xxncx video and plugged in the power and finally plugged my desktop PC into the wired Ethernet port xxncx video on the main Orbi router. On the Satellite xxncx video unit, when I xxncx video plugged it in it was supposed to glow xxncx video amber xxncx video and xxncx video then change to blue xxncx video once it xxncx video connected to the main Orbi router, no luck xxncx video there, it just kept flashing white despite it being only xxncx video about 15-20 feet away from it. I gave up on that and went back to getting xxncx video the main router configured.I xxncx video then went to http://orbilogin.com and xxncx video thats xxncx video when my problems started. The first xxncx video thing xxncx video it xxncx video does is check for xxncx video an internet xxncx video connection, it kept timing out saying it couldnt connect to the xxncx video internet. I checked the xxncx video cable xxncx video between it xxncx video and xxncx video the cable modem, I turned the Orbi xxncx video router on and off and still no luck, finally I had to power cycle the cable modem again and it worked. It went xxncx video through the setup xxncx video process, then xxncx video asked me xxncx video to register it, I put my xxncx video serial number xxncx video and xxncx video info in, it xxncx video said it would send me a confirmation email and xxncx video waited for me to acknowledge xxncx video that email before xxncx video it could xxncx video proceed. xxncx video I never got xxncx video the email so I just closed the window and xxncx video went back xxncx video to xxncx video the main Orbi admin page.Both xxncx video the satellite and main xxncx video router had pretty old firmware versions so I xxncx video went to the firmware update page, it detected new xxncx video firmware for the router xxncx video but was stuck on xxncx video Please wait while checking for new firmware on the satellite, because xxncx video of this the xxncx video update buttons wouldnt work xxncx video either. I waited xxncx video about 10 xxncx video minutes xxncx video and xxncx video it was still stuck, xxncx video I tried again and the same thing happened, finally I gave up and called xxncx video Netgears support.Trying xxncx video to navigate to NetGears support was another fun challenge, they seem xxncx video to hide any way to xxncx video contact xxncx video phone support on xxncx video their main website. They xxncx video also want you to take a picture of your receipt that you bought the unit to get to support. I wasnt having any of xxncx video that, I was already getting fed up that this xxncx video supposedly super easy Orbi was already giving me problems. I finally xxncx video googled Netgear support phone number and xxncx video found the number to call them.The xxncx video first guy I talked to xxncx video was your xxncx video typical, read from a script, I know very little type of support guy, I knew xxncx video I wasnt going to get anywhere fast xxncx video with xxncx video him. He kept xxncx video making useless suggestions and asking non-relevant questions, he also wanted me to xxncx video move the satellite closer to the router. I told him I wasnt going to do that, if those 2 units cant communicate well enough xxncx video from xxncx video 15-20 feet xxncx video away moving them xxncx video closer xxncx video wasnt going to do xxncx video anything. Finally I got fed up and xxncx video asked to talk to a supervisor.The supervisor didnt seem any more xxncx video skilled then the first guy, he said xxncx video he could have someone xxncx video from xxncx video advanced support call xxncx video me back, I finally was about xxncx video to hang up and told xxncx video him to forget xxncx video it Im xxncx video just going to return this. xxncx video This got me an immediate Ill transfer you to someone xxncx video who actually knows xxncx video what they are talking about response. xxncx video In a few xxncx video minutes I xxncx video was xxncx video talking to xxncx video their advanced support who xxncx video did a remote session to my desktop.They xxncx video went xxncx video through the process of downloading and manually updating the satellite firmware. xxncx video Apparently xxncx video there xxncx video is a bug in the xxncx video earlier xxncx video firmware version where you cant automatically update firmware xxncx video through the admin xxncx video console. xxncx video Once that was manually xxncx video applied the satellite unit re-started and then it looked xxncx video like the main xxncx video router unit updated its firmware automatically xxncx video and re-started as well. From that point they were both at xxncx video the latest firmware versions and everything was xxncx video working. You can xxncx video only make a first xxncx video impression once xxncx video and with the issues I experienced while setting Orbi up my initial excitement at xxncx video getting a new wireless xxncx video router quickly turned to frustration and aggravation.I checked my signal strength xxncx video upstairs and at the opposite side of the house (see above) and it was very strong, much xxncx video stronger xxncx video then with the single Asus router. Also note that I pretty much get 5Ghz xxncx video coverage xxncx video anywhere in the house now both upstairs and downstairs where I only xxncx video was able to get xxncx video it downstairs xxncx video in the man cave and xxncx video just outside xxncx video before.So after an hour or so of aggravation xxncx video everything xxncx video was finally xxncx video working. Im only on my first day with the Orbi, it seems to be working well now but xxncx video only time will tell. The xxncx video hardware seems xxncx video solid, xxncx video the admin xxncx video UI xxncx video seems laggy and is a bit xxncx video plain xxncx video and xxncx video basic but it has a fairly decent amount of advanced networking features. There is xxncx video also no cloud management connection required like some xxncx video of the other mesh systems xxncx video require were if you lose xxncx video internet connectivity your whole LAN xxncx video is down as well. The Orbi does have 3 wired Ethernet xxncx video ports which is a xxncx video big xxncx video plus, I xxncx video do have a NetGear 24-port smart switch that I use for a xxncx video home lab xxncx video but its nice xxncx video to not have to xxncx video use that if needed.One thing xxncx video I had wanted xxncx video to xxncx video know was the status of the backhaul connection between xxncx video the router xxncx video and the satellite xxncx video to see if they xxncx video were xxncx video optimally positioned. The Orbi admin xxncx video UI just xxncx video simply xxncx video says 1 Satellite xxncx video connected but tells xxncx video you nothing about the status and xxncx video strength of that connection. The LED ring on top of the satellite only works when you initially plug xxncx video it in xxncx video and xxncx video then goes dark. Id like to xxncx video know that the xxncx video satellite is working and how xxncx video well its working, xxncx video it would be nice if that LED ring xxncx video would xxncx video stay on or could be turned on xxncx video if desired to xxncx video tell you how xxncx video the satellite is doing. I xxncx video also hate looking at xxncx video the main router and having no visible indication of xxncx video what the hell its doing, it xxncx video could be off xxncx video for all I know. NetGear put that LED to work and make it configurable xxncx video in xxncx video the admin UI. How about different colors xxncx video for certain xxncx video states and pulsing speed based on how busy it is. xxncx video It xxncx video would also be nice if xxncx video the xxncx video admin UI could show xxncx video you more detail on xxncx video the router-satellite connection.There are really xxncx video two big xxncx video components to a wireless router, its hardware xxncx video and its xxncx video software, you need xxncx video the xxncx video combination xxncx video of both xxncx video of xxncx video these to be good to have a great product. I wont dispute NetGear has always had xxncx video great xxncx video hardware and that looks to still be xxncx video the case with the Orbi, but quite frankly there xxncx video software has always xxncx video been pretty crappy. My past few routers have been Asus and if its one thing that Asus has nailed xxncx video its their software xxncx video which totally kicks ass, there admin UI is xxncx video feature rich, very nicely laid xxncx video out and easy xxncx video to use and they update it xxncx video constantly. You can xxncx video even get the Merlin xxncx video builds which xxncx video are based on the stock software which xxncx video take it to the xxncx video next level. Coming from Asus, looking at xxncx video NetGears UI is xxncx video a big let xxncx video down, its plain, basic, lacking and it looks xxncx video like a 10 year old designed it. You also have to download a separate xxncx video Windows NetGear Genie app to do certain things, why cant I do xxncx video it all xxncx video in the web based xxncx video UI Also how about being able to xxncx video show xxncx video a network map and maybe some basic device xxncx video usage xxncx video reporting NetGear if you xxncx video would just give your admin UI an overhaul you would xxncx video have xxncx video a killer product.Now xxncx video lets talk Parental Controls which xxncx video is one area xxncx video that NetGear has always sucked at which xxncx video is one of the major reasons I xxncx video always chose Asus over them in the past. I would of thought xxncx video by xxncx video now NetGear would have been xxncx video able to figure xxncx video out xxncx video this important xxncx video feature to xxncx video any parent and implement it xxncx video correctly. Instead they have xxncx video a half-assed & weak xxncx video Parental xxncx video Controls in their admin UI and then they punt xxncx video and say go use Open DNS if you want more which xxncx video would work great until your kid figures xxncx video out how to xxncx video change their DNS server. On my Asus router, I had full Parental Controls built-in xxncx video including the most important xxncx video one to me, time of day access control by MAC address so I can shut my kids internet xxncx video off at night at a specific time. While NetGear has time xxncx video controls built-in xxncx video it impacts xxncx video every device connected to the router not just specific ones. Is xxncx video it really that hard NetGear to xxncx video implement time xxncx video of day xxncx video controls by xxncx video MAC addressAll in all if I would say Im satisfied with xxncx video the xxncx video Orbi so xxncx video far and will likely xxncx video keep it, what xxncx video any wireless xxncx video router xxncx video has to xxncx video do really xxncx video well is xxncx video perform and that is what counts the most as xxncx video you are using it xxncx video day in and day out. Things like the admin UI you do not frequently xxncx video use xxncx video so as xxncx video long as my wifi is fast and gives me xxncx video good coverage across my entire house Im all good. It would xxncx video be nice if they improved the admin UI, parental controls, LED light functionality and other things. The Orbi is still xxncx video pretty new so hopefully xxncx video the software xxncx video improves xxncx video over time which xxncx video would make me even happier.UPDATE (12/11/16):After living xxncx video with Orbi xxncx video for a xxncx video few days now, all I can say is: damn xxncx video this thing xxncx video kicks ass. I get awesome coverage all xxncx video throughout the house and I can get 5Ghz anywhere. From one of xxncx video the farthest points from the main router and satellite xxncx video my iPad speed test is xxncx video around 170Mbps, crazy fast. xxncx video My PC xxncx video that xxncx video is wired to one of Orbis Ethernet ports does a xxncx video speed test at 232 Mbps. Also in that same xxncx video room were I would xxncx video regularly get the flashing wifi signal in Clash of Clans meaning xxncx video Im about to get xxncx video disconnected (CoC xxncx video tends to be latency xxncx video sensitive), I have not been disconnected once with Orbi. Im very happy xxncx video with how well Orbi xxncx video performs xxncx video and xxncx video would xxncx video recommend it to anyone xxncx video looking for whole home wifi, NetGear please just work on your admin UI and Ill be even happier!UPDATE 2 (12/13/16):NetGear xxncx video yesterday released a new Orbi xxncx video firmware version (1.4.0.18) it was mostly xxncx video minor but contained xxncx video support xxncx video for a new IOS/Android app that xxncx video was released yesterday for management. My initial thoughts were, xxncx video great xxncx video now I have to xxncx video go through another painful firmware xxncx video upgrade process, and xxncx video also cool an app xxncx video that xxncx video might make device xxncx video management xxncx video easier. The firmware upgrade went OK without issue this time around, I xxncx video upgraded it xxncx video through the admin UI and it xxncx video was xxncx video pushed xxncx video out to both the xxncx video main xxncx video router xxncx video and satellite. I downloaded the admin app to my xxncx video iPad hoping for xxncx video new management xxncx video goodness and when xxncx video I launched it found it to xxncx video be a xxncx video bit of a joke, you can xxncx video do almost nothing xxncx video in the app and its got to be the most xxncx video basic app Ive xxncx video seen looking like someone wrote it less than an hour.When xxncx video you launch the app youre greeted to xxncx video their dashboard xxncx video which xxncx video is nothing more than a screen with a giant picture of an Orbi with the only information shown being your Wifi network and password. If you browse xxncx video the limited menu they xxncx video have xxncx video stuck xxncx video in the xxncx video corner all you can do is xxncx video show device info (nothing more than the model, MAC xxncx video address xxncx video and xxncx video the firmware xxncx video version only xxncx video for the xxncx video router) and connected devices and thats about it. xxncx video My xxncx video excitement of having an iPad xxncx video management app quickly went to this royally sucks, app deleted. Again NetGear looks to not have a clue xxncx video at xxncx video designing a useful and nice management UI/app, they xxncx video are xxncx video lucky their hardware is keeping xxncx video me a customer because their administration interfaces are trying real hard to xxncx video push me away.Pluses:3 wired Ethernet portsFast and strong xxncx video wifi signalNice xxncx video looking xxncx video hardwareDedicated backhaul channel between router & satelliteRouter is pre-paired xxncx video with xxncx video satellite xxncx video unitNo xxncx video cloud xxncx video management requiredHas a decent xxncx video amount of advanced xxncx video networking featuresCons:LED light rings on xxncx video top are xxncx video fairly uselessCrappy admin xxncx video UI is fairly xxncx video bland and a bit laggyNo way to see xxncx video details of router-satellite connectionNo time scheduling parental controls xxncx video by MACFirmware upgrade is buggyIOS app is xxncx video terribleSupport xxncx video isnt great unless you xxncx video tell them you are returning itUPDATE 7/13/17:Despite xxncx video an initial rough xxncx video start with the NetGear Orbi Home Wifi System Ive been a big fan of xxncx video it up xxncx video until today. The reason I bought the xxncx video Orbi was xxncx video because I xxncx video kept xxncx video having wifi drops xxncx video in some xxncx video areas of my xxncx video house xxncx video with my Asus RT-AC87U xxncx video router. xxncx video I play xxncx video a xxncx video lot of online games like xxncx video Clash of xxncx video Clans and if you xxncx video know xxncx video CoC the dreaded wifi symbol while you are playing is not xxncx video something you want xxncx video to see. That symbol means your connection sucks and you xxncx video are about to get dropped, I would get xxncx video that xxncx video frequently with my Asus xxncx video router. Once I had Orbi up xxncx video and xxncx video running my xxncx video wifi problems were xxncx video completely xxncx video gone for 7 months, until today.Netgear pushed xxncx video out a 1.12.0.18 update to my router and xxncx video satellite last night and xxncx video today I xxncx video awoke to constant xxncx video and frequent disconnects xxncx video on both my iPad xxncx video Air 2 and Galaxy S7 Edge. xxncx video I could literally not go xxncx video a minute without a disconnect. I called their support who was basically useless, they said xxncx video to enable Implicit Beamforming xxncx video which has been disabled by default many updates xxncx video ago xxncx video because of issues xxncx video it caused xxncx video with some devices. I xxncx video tried that anyway and it seemed xxncx video to xxncx video help a little with the iPad but not the Galaxy xxncx video S7.Ironically Netgear xxncx video had a xxncx video big xxncx video focus on fixing wifi disconnects xxncx video with xxncx video this xxncx video update which has apparently plagued them from the beginning, read the xxncx video Netgear xxncx video forums and there are lots of threads on this xxncx video issue like this xxncx video one and this one. They also have problems with the Orbi xxncx video losing connection to your internet device xxncx video (i.e. cable modem), I also experience this xxncx video frequently as xxncx video well, the only fix xxncx video is to reboot the cable modem. Most of the updates up until xxncx video now xxncx video have not really xxncx video done xxncx video all that much, this xxncx video one had a lot xxncx video of big xxncx video fixes as xxncx video seen below:Fixes the iOS disconnection issue.Fixes the Dropcam disconnection issue.Fixes the convergence issue when an xxncx video Ethernet connected device moves from one Orbi to another.Fixes the issue where the Orbi app cant find the Orbi router if the router xxncx video is xxncx video using IPv6 xxncx video and xxncx video is xxncx video in xxncx video AP mode.Fixes the issue where xxncx video the Orbi app cant display more xxncx video than 20 connected devices.Fixes the xxncx video issue where the installation assistant might not display xxncx video if the xxncx video device is connected xxncx video to the Orbi network wirelessly.Fixes xxncx video the issue where the xxncx video 2.4 GHz xxncx video backhaul setting is disabled if the fronthaul MU-MIMO and TxBF is disabled.Fixes the issue xxncx video where IPv6 devices on the guest network can access the xxncx video Orbi routers web GUI.Includes security fixes for the following security vulnerabilities:PSV-2016-0133, PSV-2017-0607, PSV-2017-0615, xxncx video PSV-2017-0736, PSV-2017-2190So an update that supposedly fixes disconnect issues (which I xxncx video never experienced) does the opposite and starts xxncx video causing them instead. Thank you Netgear for xxncx video breaking my perfectly wonderful xxncx video wifi system. Apparently their engineering team has xxncx video been spending most xxncx video of xxncx video their time introducing new xxncx video Orbi devices xxncx video and xxncx video not spending much time refining their xxncx video current firmware.I xxncx video ended up xxncx video downgrading both my router and satellite xxncx video to the prior version which is xxncx video 1.11.0.20 xxncx video which has xxncx video been working perfectly. In fact I have never had xxncx video an xxncx video issue with an Orbi update until now, Im beginning to xxncx video suspect the reason why xxncx video is that xxncx video they xxncx video havent really done much xxncx video with any of their 11 updates up until this one. xxncx video Look at xxncx video their typical release xxncx video notes for the last 3 updates:1.10.1.2 C Fixed few bugs1.9.1.2 C Fixes bugs and xxncx video security xxncx video issues. C xxncx video Improves the xxncx video firmware upgrade process. C Continuous xxncx video improvement xxncx video in wireless connection stability1.8.0.6 C Fixes bugs and security issues. C Supports Korea wireless regionNow that they have xxncx video finally starting to xxncx video pay attention to some of the serious issues that Orbi has xxncx video had they have apparently xxncx video tried to xxncx video fix some things xxncx video and xxncx video broke other things. At this stage with xxncx video this new update Im not going to update past 1.11.0.20 until Netgear gets their act together which is a shame as I will be missing out on potentially other fixes and enhancements. I loved my xxncx video Orbi up until today xxncx video and xxncx video just yesterday was recommending it to people. 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Buyer's experience:
      1: My last few routers have all been Asus routers, I tend to by the biggest one I can get to get coverage in all areas of my home. My old Asus RT-AC87U router is located in my man cave which is in the basement of my ranch house and all the way at one end of the house. Because of this placement it makes getting a good strong signal upstairs and at the other end of the house a little difficult. Ive tried various methods to extend the wifi in the past including using power line adapters and wifi repeaters, theyve always been a little flaky so I always try and just buy a big router instead.Ive seen the mesh wifi routers becoming more popular, there big selling point is that everything is seamless to install and configure, you dont have to mess with setting up multiple routers in bridge mode or anything else, you just plug them in and they all work together to form a big wifi mesh network. I started looking at the 2 that had been out for a while, Eero and Luma and they seemed fairly decent but had mixed reviews. Then I saw that NetGear had come out with their own, the Orbi. I had intended to just upgrade to another big honkin router, the Nighthawk X6 AC3200 but the Orbi caught my eye and was getting very good reviews so I thought I would give it a try instead.One thing that stood out with the Orbi is its dedicated backhaul, which is the connection between the main router and the satellite routers, other mesh wifi systems use the same radios that is used for user traffic for the connections between devices as well. The Orbi has a dedicated radio for that to separate that traffic and not use up user bandwidth which allows for better performance. So after reading up on everything I could find about the Orbi and seeing good things I ordered the 2 unit model (router + satellite).When it arrived I opened it and it was very nicely packaged, the router and satellite units are the same size and fairly big (also a bit slippery). I followed the quick install instructions, removed my old router, unplugged my cable modem, plugged it back in, turned on the main Orbi router, plugged it into the cable modem, placed the satellite upstairs and plugged in the power and finally plugged my desktop PC into the wired Ethernet port on the main Orbi router. On the Satellite unit, when I plugged it in it was supposed to glow amber and then change to blue once it connected to the main Orbi router, no luck there, it just kept flashing white despite it being only about 15-20 feet away from it. I gave up on that and went back to getting the main router configured.I then went to http://orbilogin.com and thats when my problems started. The first thing it does is check for an internet connection, it kept timing out saying it couldnt connect to the internet. I checked the cable between it and the cable modem, I turned the Orbi router on and off and still no luck, finally I had to power cycle the cable modem again and it worked. It went through the setup process, then asked me to register it, I put my serial number and info in, it said it would send me a confirmation email and waited for me to acknowledge that email before it could proceed. I never got the email so I just closed the window and went back to the main Orbi admin page.Both the satellite and main router had pretty old firmware versions so I went to the firmware update page, it detected new firmware for the router but was stuck on Please wait while checking for new firmware on the satellite, because of this the update buttons wouldnt work either. I waited about 10 minutes and it was still stuck, I tried again and the same thing happened, finally I gave up and called Netgears support.Trying to navigate to NetGears support was another fun challenge, they seem to hide any way to contact phone support on their main website. They also want you to take a picture of your receipt that you bought the unit to get to support. I wasnt having any of that, I was already getting fed up that this supposedly super easy Orbi was already giving me problems. I finally googled Netgear support phone number and found the number to call them.The first guy I talked to was your typical, read from a script, I know very little type of support guy, I knew I wasnt going to get anywhere fast with him. He kept making useless suggestions and asking non-relevant questions, he also wanted me to move the satellite closer to the router. I told him I wasnt going to do that, if those 2 units cant communicate well enough from 15-20 feet away moving them closer wasnt going to do anything. Finally I got fed up and asked to talk to a supervisor.The supervisor didnt seem any more skilled then the first guy, he said he could have someone from advanced support call me back, I finally was about to hang up and told him to forget it Im just going to return this. This got me an immediate Ill transfer you to someone who actually knows what they are talking about response. In a few minutes I was talking to their advanced support who did a remote session to my desktop.They went through the process of downloading and manually updating the satellite firmware. Apparently there is a bug in the earlier firmware version where you cant automatically update firmware through the admin console. Once that was manually applied the satellite unit re-started and then it looked like the main router unit updated its firmware automatically and re-started as well. From that point they were both at the latest firmware versions and everything was working. You can only make a first impression once and with the issues I experienced while setting Orbi up my initial excitement at getting a new wireless router quickly turned to frustration and aggravation.I checked my signal strength upstairs and at the opposite side of the house (see above) and it was very strong, much stronger then with the single Asus router. Also note that I pretty much get 5Ghz coverage anywhere in the house now both upstairs and downstairs where I only was able to get it downstairs in the man cave and just outside before.So after an hour or so of aggravation everything was finally working. Im only on my first day with the Orbi, it seems to be working well now but only time will tell. The hardware seems solid, the admin UI seems laggy and is a bit plain and basic but it has a fairly decent amount of advanced networking features. There is also no cloud management connection required like some of the other mesh systems require were if you lose internet connectivity your whole LAN is down as well. The Orbi does have 3 wired Ethernet ports which is a big plus, I do have a NetGear 24-port smart switch that I use for a home lab but its nice to not have to use that if needed.One thing I had wanted to know was the status of the backhaul connection between the router and the satellite to see if they were optimally positioned. The Orbi admin UI just simply says 1 Satellite connected but tells you nothing about the status and strength of that connection. The LED ring on top of the satellite only works when you initially plug it in and then goes dark. Id like to know that the satellite is working and how well its working, it would be nice if that LED ring would stay on or could be turned on if desired to tell you how the satellite is doing. I also hate looking at the main router and having no visible indication of what the hell its doing, it could be off for all I know. NetGear put that LED to work and make it configurable in the admin UI. How about different colors for certain states and pulsing speed based on how busy it is. It would also be nice if the admin UI could show you more detail on the router-satellite connection.There are really two big components to a wireless router, its hardware and its software, you need the combination of both of these to be good to have a great product. I wont dispute NetGear has always had great hardware and that looks to still be the case with the Orbi, but quite frankly there software has always been pretty crappy. My past few routers have been Asus and if its one thing that Asus has nailed its their software which totally kicks ass, there admin UI is feature rich, very nicely laid out and easy to use and they update it constantly. You can even get the Merlin builds which are based on the stock software which take it to the next level. Coming from Asus, looking at NetGears UI is a big let down, its plain, basic, lacking and it looks like a 10 year old designed it. You also have to download a separate Windows NetGear Genie app to do certain things, why cant I do it all in the web based UI Also how about being able to show a network map and maybe some basic device usage reporting NetGear if you would just give your admin UI an overhaul you would have a killer product.Now lets talk Parental Controls which is one area that NetGear has always sucked at which is one of the major reasons I always chose Asus over them in the past. I would of thought by now NetGear would have been able to figure out this important feature to any parent and implement it correctly. Instead they have a half-assed & weak Parental Controls in their admin UI and then they punt and say go use Open DNS if you want more which would work great until your kid figures out how to change their DNS server. On my Asus router, I had full Parental Controls built-in including the most important one to me, time of day access control by MAC address so I can shut my kids internet off at night at a specific time. While NetGear has time controls built-in it impacts every device connected to the router not just specific ones. Is it really that hard NetGear to implement time of day controls by MAC addressAll in all if I would say Im satisfied with the Orbi so far and will likely keep it, what any wireless router has to do really well is perform and that is what counts the most as you are using it day in and day out. Things like the admin UI you do not frequently use so as long as my wifi is fast and gives me good coverage across my entire house Im all good. It would be nice if they improved the admin UI, parental controls, LED light functionality and other things. The Orbi is still pretty new so hopefully the software improves over time which would make me even happier.UPDATE (12/11/16):After living with Orbi for a few days now, all I can say is: damn this thing kicks ass. I get awesome coverage all throughout the house and I can get 5Ghz anywhere. From one of the farthest points from the main router and satellite my iPad speed test is around 170Mbps, crazy fast. My PC that is wired to one of Orbis Ethernet ports does a speed test at 232 Mbps. Also in that same room were I would regularly get the flashing wifi signal in Clash of Clans meaning Im about to get disconnected (CoC tends to be latency sensitive), I have not been disconnected once with Orbi. Im very happy with how well Orbi performs and would recommend it to anyone looking for whole home wifi, NetGear please just work on your admin UI and Ill be even happier!UPDATE 2 (12/13/16):NetGear yesterday released a new Orbi firmware version (1.4.0.18) it was mostly minor but contained support for a new IOS/Android app that was released yesterday for management. My initial thoughts were, great now I have to go through another painful firmware upgrade process, and also cool an app that might make device management easier. The firmware upgrade went OK without issue this time around, I upgraded it through the admin UI and it was pushed out to both the main router and satellite. I downloaded the admin app to my iPad hoping for new management goodness and when I launched it found it to be a bit of a joke, you can do almost nothing in the app and its got to be the most basic app Ive seen looking like someone wrote it less than an hour.When you launch the app youre greeted to their dashboard which is nothing more than a screen with a giant picture of an Orbi with the only information shown being your Wifi network and password. If you browse the limited menu they have stuck in the corner all you can do is show device info (nothing more than the model, MAC address and the firmware version only for the router) and connected devices and thats about it. My excitement of having an iPad management app quickly went to this royally sucks, app deleted. Again NetGear looks to not have a clue at designing a useful and nice management UI/app, they are lucky their hardware is keeping me a customer because their administration interfaces are trying real hard to push me away.Pluses:3 wired Ethernet portsFast and strong wifi signalNice looking hardwareDedicated backhaul channel between router & satelliteRouter is pre-paired with satellite unitNo cloud management requiredHas a decent amount of advanced networking featuresCons:LED light rings on top are fairly uselessCrappy admin UI is fairly bland and a bit laggyNo way to see details of router-satellite connectionNo time scheduling parental controls by MACFirmware upgrade is buggyIOS app is terribleSupport isnt great unless you tell them you are returning itUPDATE 7/13/17:Despite an initial rough start with the NetGear Orbi Home Wifi System Ive been a big fan of it up until today. The reason I bought the Orbi was because I kept having wifi drops in some areas of my house with my Asus RT-AC87U router. I play a lot of online games like Clash of Clans and if you know CoC the dreaded wifi symbol while you are playing is not something you want to see. That symbol means your connection sucks and you are about to get dropped, I would get that frequently with my Asus router. Once I had Orbi up and running my wifi problems were completely gone for 7 months, until today.Netgear pushed out a 1.12.0.18 update to my router and satellite last night and today I awoke to constant and frequent disconnects on both my iPad Air 2 and Galaxy S7 Edge. I could literally not go a minute without a disconnect. I called their support who was basically useless, they said to enable Implicit Beamforming which has been disabled by default many updates ago because of issues it caused with some devices. I tried that anyway and it seemed to help a little with the iPad but not the Galaxy S7.Ironically Netgear had a big focus on fixing wifi disconnects with this update which has apparently plagued them from the beginning, read the Netgear forums and there are lots of threads on this issue like this one and this one. They also have problems with the Orbi losing connection to your internet device (i.e. cable modem), I also experience this frequently as well, the only fix is to reboot the cable modem. Most of the updates up until now have not really done all that much, this one had a lot of big fixes as seen below:Fixes the iOS disconnection issue.Fixes the Dropcam disconnection issue.Fixes the convergence issue when an Ethernet connected device moves from one Orbi to another.Fixes the issue where the Orbi app cant find the Orbi router if the router is using IPv6 and is in AP mode.Fixes the issue where the Orbi app cant display more than 20 connected devices.Fixes the issue where the installation assistant might not display if the device is connected to the Orbi network wirelessly.Fixes the issue where the 2.4 GHz backhaul setting is disabled if the fronthaul MU-MIMO and TxBF is disabled.Fixes the issue where IPv6 devices on the guest network can access the Orbi routers web GUI.Includes security fixes for the following security vulnerabilities:PSV-2016-0133, PSV-2017-0607, PSV-2017-0615, PSV-2017-0736, PSV-2017-2190So an update that supposedly fixes disconnect issues (which I never experienced) does the opposite and starts causing them instead. Thank you Netgear for breaking my perfectly wonderful wifi system. Apparently their engineering team has been spending most of their time introducing new Orbi devices and not spending much time refining their current firmware.I ended up downgrading both my router and satellite to the prior version which is 1.11.0.20 which has been working perfectly. In fact I have never had an issue with an Orbi update until now, Im beginning to suspect the reason why is that they havent really done much with any of their 11 updates up until this one. Look at their typical release notes for the last 3 updates:1.10.1.2 C Fixed few bugs1.9.1.2 C Fixes bugs and security issues. C Improves the firmware upgrade process. C Continuous improvement in wireless connection stability1.8.0.6 C Fixes bugs and security issues. C Supports Korea wireless regionNow that they have finally starting to pay attention to some of the serious issues that Orbi has had they have apparently tried to fix some things and broke other things. At this stage with this new update Im not going to update past 1.11.0.20 until Netgear gets their act together which is a shame as I will be missing out on potentially other fixes and enhancements. I loved my Orbi up until today and just yesterday was recommending it to people. However after this update dropped I will not recommend it anymore and may just end up migrating to one of the competing systems from Ubiquiti, Google and Eero which is a shame as Netgear had a good thing going with Orbi. Ultimately it comes down to what works best for me and if Orbi can no longer deliver that anymore than its adios amigo.
      2: I'm going to keep this short, because otherwise I'll end up deleting this after several revisions and give up. For this I product line (Orbi RK50), this will be my third attempt, because I feel rather strongly about it. Also, you may find this review somewhat strange, because I will spend most of the time not talking about it. If you have the time and patience, please bear with me - I promise there's a point to it. Finally, I apologize in advance if this review contributes toward you deciding to buy this wifi distribution system and it turns out not to meet your needs. There are always edge cases where even the best products will underperform. Wireless data transmission, unlike wired, is strongly affected by a number of external factors, such as obstacles (e.g. material type and thickness), competing signals (vicinity and number) that cause interference and result in diminished performance.In my case, there are only a small number of other signals in the neighborhood; but due to the position of the cable modem providing internet service - which is situated on the second floor, in a far corner - there were many dead zones throughout the house. The built in wifi transceiver of the modem (a typical FIOS unit) provided relatively adequate service on that floor; but on the first floor, the signal was significantly diminished and entirely inadequate for reliably streaming video to the television that sits at the opposite end of the house. In addition, there is an adjunct structure that was added later and connects on the opposite end first floor via a thick door. Beyond this point, the signal was very faint and could only be picked up sporadically, near the door. Suffice it to say, the entire basement was a dead zone and areas in between varied from acceptable (first floor, closest to the modem) to mostly inadequate.(note: if you are unfamiliar with some of the terminology in this section, don't let it confuse you. I'm providing the additional information mainly to clarify the effort I put into solving the problem.) My first attempt was to simply reuse existing hardware: a 3 year old 1900AC router with dual frequency antennas and a Tinkerboard with an AC-56 dual radio USB dongle attached. I tried using both devices mentioned (the former running various releases of OpenWRT and the latter running a flavor of Debian Linux with hostapd etc. configured). I used the 'iw phy info' command in both cases to find device specific info for tunable parameters, to ensure that both configurations were optimally supporting underlying device capabilities (set via hostapd.conf in Linux and wireless config file in OpenWRT). For the AC-56 I also compiled a third party variant of the RT8812AU kernel driver, which reduces some hardware restrictions (mainly usability of side channel transmission in a competitive environment, iirc).I originally set up the 1900AC device as a retransmitter on the first floor near the other end of the house, which would pick up the modem's 2.4GHzWifi signal and then retransmit it via both 2.4GHz and 5GHz. I tried to minimize the number of clients connecting via 2.4GHz because the router only has one radio for each band and already uses the lower band to communicate with the modem. This configuration provided coverage to the adjunct using both bands, but the transmission rate was odd: while speed tests claimed 20-24 down / 40-50 up (subscription is for a 75/ connection), the stability and transmission rate of the connection seemed to vary greatly, resulting e.g. in frequent drops in quality in some cases or freezes in others while streaming video. I haven't tested this yet with the Orbi setup, but I also saw frequent disconnects when using a VPN). I was now able to stream to the TV, but the quality of the stream was sub-par. Since the same happened with clients connected on either band, i assume the bottleneck was caused by the communication between the modem and the router. In case I forget to mention this later: I should note that when I placed the Orbi master and slave units, I used the same locations where the other devices were set up.To improve the quality of the transmission between the modem and the router, I then placed the additional device near the ceiling at the opposite end of the room so that it was connected by wire to the modem in that room and effectively acted as an intermediary between the modem and the router. This brought the signal about 12' closer (horizontally) to the center of the house. I tried using both devices as intermediaries, but the result was the same: there was no significant improvement. I also tried moving the intermediary closer to the floor, moving the router from the first floor to the second, etc. In all cases the end result was the same: diminished signal strength and significant reduction of transmission speed and quality. I also tried varying the channels used on both bands.This lengthy description is meant primarily to illustrate that I went to some length to try to set up a distributed wifi network on my own. Was the ultimate result caused by the devices, or was it because I ultimately failed to find the optimal configuration I will admit that I could have tried a few more things to optimize utilization of device capabilities. I could have also formalized testing procedures to obtain more consistent and useful results. Is it likely that someone more experienced/knowledgeable could have gotten it to work, in less time Probably. If you were reading this and kept thinking "but why didn't you try XYZ," you are probably that person. I should also point out that there send to be something strange going on with the hardware of the 1900AC device - which I could never identify, in spite of sending all syslog information to a dedicated syslog server, spending lots of time reviewing system and ring buffer logs, etc. Either the problem has worsened in the last six months (which could also be temperature-related, especially since it involves radio transmissions), or some component is operating at reduced efficiency without failing completely or crashing the device. Other possibilities are that I've spent too much time looking at all this and am starting to see things. Finally - and this is the most likely reason - different versions of OpenWRT seem to perform differently on any given platform. Notably, if you have an older device, the optimal version of OpenWRT/DD-WRT/Gargoyle/etc. Isn't necessarily the most recent one. For example, one popular variant of OpenWRT started providing a version for my specific device with an older kernel revision, because the more recent kernel caused consistent system crashes, for unknown reasons.Great, you've made it this far You have my respect. This review is disastrous and spends far too much time talking about anything but the product supposedly being reviewed. I did want to elaborate on the amount of work I put into resolving the problem and adequately describing the obstacles encountered. In the end, I feel that I can only adequately illustrate the performance of this product by properly describing the 'theater of war' in which it was dropped to carry out its mission. Before I get to that next, I also wanted to point out that this isn't intended to, nor should it be taken as a "negative" review of the other devices - which I've deliberately kept vague in one case, because it's a device with a similar purpose from a competing vendor; comparing the two isn't fair due to the differences in specific purpose, significant difference in age, and because the other device was running a third party OS that doesn't come with an optimal service specific configuration by default and may have been running a suboptimal configuration. As for the Tinker board - i used it because it's an SoC with a gigabit network port that happens to come with the dongle - specific driver. Needless to say, it was never intended to be used for these purposes, although - considering the very low transmission speed maximum - even it is fast enough to not become the bottleneck.When I tried to set up the Orbi units, I was initially frustrated by the quick start documentation. Now to the manufacturer: if your documentation instructs the user to modify other devices (in this case, remove the backup batteries from the cable modem), you owe it to the user to provide at least a short justification. I couldn't find any batteries and didn't feel like disassembling the device to look for any, so I only followed the first step: unplug, wait, plug back in. Also, the documentation doesn't specifically mention whether the up link cable should also be plugged in at the same time. Fortunately, none of this affected the final outcome.In the end, the master unit was placed in the same location, near the ceiling and connected to the modem via the same ethernet cable. Meanwhile, the slave unit took over the location where the other router was previously located. I don't really recall doing much else, because the default configuration seemed to already work well. I did enable beam forming and the option below it, but i can't say whether they had any effect on the outcome.The most immediately notable difference was that the entire house - including the basement - receives a strong signal (minimum 4/5 bars in the most distant corner of the basement and the adjunct, which is behind an exterior wall/ thick door; but typically 5/5 everywhere else). Using a wifi scanner app confirms this: both master/slave units are now visible in the plot, even at 5GHz (when checked near the slave).Wifi signal strength decreases faster at higher frequencies (most wireless devices compensate for this by increasing the power output from eg 20 to 30mW when using higher channels in a given band. Still, considering the low quality of the 2.4GHz signal from the prior setup, I am amazed that Netgear manages the entire backhaul via the dedicated third 5GHz signal. The output of these radios is limited by FCC regulation to a low level and, in any case, pumping up the power increases the noise produced without adequate cooling. So my only conclusion is, considering that all radios in all devices (except the modem) are compatible with the fastest standards for each band, that the people who created the configuration of these devices know way more than I do. Which isn't to say that I'm any kind of guru. In fact, the details above should hopefully give you an idea of the results produced by a layman trying to solve the same problem.Bandwidth tests on DSL Reports show 5X down / 6X up and A ratings excerpt for buffer bloat, which receives a B rating. But these numbers are in the end just figures that are as meaningless as they were when I conducted the same tests using the previous setup. What matters in the end (and why I never bothered to find out if those options I enabled made a difference) is that I no longer feel the need to nickel and dime the effect each parameter change has on the result. It simply works - pacman updates (MinGW/MSYS - I'm stating these specifically because pacman shows throughput for each downloaded package and the recent update modified 30-40, or 612MiB total) have gone from average 2-300KiB/s to 4-5MiB/s (on a laptop located in the adjunct) - a far cry from the 2-3x difference that the speed tests presume to indicate. Streams work without interruption. Everything works - i don't even think about it anymore. And, I other than the Orbi system adjusting its local subnet due to collision with the modem shortly after setup, there has not been a single interruption.In fact, since you've read this far (you have, haven't you), I'll do you a solid and kick off a test right now: a 16.2GiB update on Steam. It appears to be peaking at 7.3MiB/s, with a very solid (nearly a line) average of 7.1MiB. Previously I saw a maximum of 2.2 (more generally 1.5-1.8), but throttled to 1MiB because otherwise streaming became impossible and even visiting web pages ended in frequent errors. While this is happening, I'm now going to try streaming Crunchyroll on an Android phone...one minute in, no freezes. I can't sty how much the download dipped in that time, because the steam client only shows current speed (7.2) and the graph isn't really indicative.This is my first, posted review. I spectacularly failed on my initial promise to keep it short (now you see why I don't write reviews), but I hope this gives you some measure of confidence, in case you're on the fence (like was actually, for a long time). It's an amazing device - in the two weeks I've used it so far. I would describe myself as a technical person who's slowly turning into a luddite because of endless frustrations with electronics. I don't recall the last time when I was this overwhelmed in terms of expectations vs results. If in two years I'm still seeing even 80% of these results and similar consistency, it might even give my Nokia N900 a run for the money in terms of best in its class I've owned.

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Bob
This is a beautiful stuff.
2021.03.06 12:00
Bob
This is a beautiful stuff.
2021.03.06 12:00
Bob
This is a beautiful stuff.
2021.03.06 12:00